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![[Junior Thames Yacht Club]](../images/g/gb~yjtyc.gif)
image by Clay Moss, 17 February 2015See also:
This flag seems rather unlikely, but it is shown in ‘Flags and Signals of All
Nations’ c1873, by Hounsell Brothers; White Ensign with blue cross. White
burgee: blue cross.
David Prothero, 16 February 2015
It is unlikely to have been authorised as a special ensign, or permitted as a
private flag on a vessel, which makes its appearance in a flag book which has
‘By authority of the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty’ on the cover, rather
surprising.
By 1842 warrants had been issued to yacht clubs for, one
White Ensign, six defaced White Ensigns, one white ensign with no overall cross,
one Red Ensign defaced on the Union and two plain Blue Ensigns. On 22 July 1842
the Secretary to the Admiralty wrote to each club with a defaced White Ensign.
“My Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty having, by their order of the 6th
June 1829, granted permission to the Royal Yacht Squadron, as having been the
first recognised club, and enjoying sundry privileges, to wear the White St.
George’s ensign and other distinctions, that their vessels might be generally
known, and particularly in Foreign ports, and much inconvenience having arisen
in consequence of other Yacht Clubs having been allowed by this Board to wear
somewhat similar colours, my Lords have cancelled the warrant enabling the
........ Yacht Club to wear the white ensign, and have directed me to send you
herewith a warrant authorising the vessels belonging to the club to wear the
blue ensign of Her Majesty’s fleet, with the distinguishing marks of the club,
as hitherto worn on the white ensign; and as it is an ensign not allowed to be
worn by merchant vessels, my Lords trust that it will be equally acceptable to
the members of the club.”
A white ensign with a blue overall cross would
come into the category of ‘somewhat similar colours’ ?
David Prothero,
18 February 2015
EBid lists this: "Antique Print of 1875 Opening Cruise Junior Thames Yacht
Club Greenhithe Boats" (http://uk.ebid.net/for-sale/antique-print-of-1875-opening-cruise-junior-thames-yacht-club-greenhithe-boats-135214045.htm),
and the design is plain to see. In black and white it doesn't seem to vary from
the White Ensign, but that wouldn't matter on the water. The only relevant text
is in the second column, below the picture (to save everybody the hunt for that
little bit of information):
However, Dicken's, 1885, ten years later,
has:
"Junior Thames Yacht Club, White Hart Hotel, Greenhithe, and Royal Oak
Hotel, Ramsgate. — The object of the club is the encouragement of practical
amateur yachtsmen. ... Burgee, white, with blue cross running through. Ensign
red."
https://archive.org/details/dickenssdictiona1885dick
It would seem
the Hounsell Brothers were correct in the 1870s, yet at some point the Admiralty
apparently saw it your way.
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 8 May
2015
![[Junior Thames Yacht Club]](../images/g/gb~yjtycb.gif)
image by Clay Moss, 17 February 2015
based on
image located by David Prothero, 16 February 2015
The (German) Flaggenbuch 1905 states that the red ensign is used without
badge (i.e. undefaced) by different yacht clubs based on a warrant and lists
this yacht club as using the red ensign.
Klaus-Michael Schneider, 10
October 2019
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