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image by Ivan Sache, 30 April 2021
Post card collection shows a red burgee
with a white cross throughout and over all a very large white disc edged black
containing a representation of Britannia.
António Martins-Tuválkin, 19 February 2007
Incorporated by the London and North Western Railway Act, 16 July 1846.
Amalgamated into the London Midland and Scottish Railway Company as from 1
January 1923 by virtue of the Railways Act, 19 August 1921.
The London
and North Western Railway Company was an amalgamation of the London and
Birmingham, the Grand Junction and the Manchester and Birmingham railway
companies.
The new company controlled 438 miles of railway route extending
from Euston in London to Birmingham via Rugby and thence to Liverpool and
Manchester via Warrington. Various further acts of Parliament were obtained
which extended the LNWR's system by either authorising new lines or absorbing
other railway companies, the most notable of which were the North London in 1909
and Lancashire and Yorkshire in 1922, giving the LNWR over 2,000 miles of route.
On 1 January 1923, the LNWR was grouped with other companies to form the London,
Midland and Scottish Railway.
National Archives
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C12598
image by Ivan Sache, 30 April 2021
Lloyd's Book of House Flags and
Funnels (1912) shows the same house flag, with a thinner cross and indentation,
and without black ring around Britannia (#1424, p. 104).
https://research.mysticseaport.org/item/l011061/l011061-c008/#69
Ivan Sache, 30 April 2021
image by António Martins-Tuválkin, 9 January 2008
Post card collection shows a blue flag with
large cartouche filled with the following arms: Per pale, the I London, and the
second per fess Argent and Gules three roses two and one counterchanged.
António Martins-Tuválkin, 19 February 2007
An image of the flag is present in 1912 Lloyds Flags & Funnels, no. 1203: http://www.mysticseaport.org. See also here (bearing in mind that this is a modern re-creation for commercial purposes). The shield is less simple, it may be a later version. The roses at any rate represent the company seat, Southampton.
Some history can be found at
http://www.soc.staffs.ac.uk/~cmtdtr/collect/lsw_enam.html,
http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/SR_LSWR1.html and for Southampton at
http://www.ngw.nl/int/gbr/s/southamp.htm.
Jan Mertens, 23 February 2007
A light blue flag with a large emblem on it, showing a coat of arms shield
encircled by a garter. I used slightly different renditions of this taken from
http://www.moonroller.com/jebbitt/graphics/lswr.gif and
http://www.moonroller.com/jebbitt/graphics/lsw_enam.gif.
António Martins-Tuválkin,
9 January 2008
image by António Martins-Tuválkin, 9 January 2008
Post card collection shows a horizontally divided flag with the flag of the London and Southwestern
Railway (q.v.) on top and a blue saltire on white, charged with a red cross
coupe, on the bottom. Can we assume that the latter pattern is the flag of the
London, Brighton & Southern Coast Railway?
António Martins-Tuválkin,
9 January 2008
image located by António Martins-Tuválkin, 19 February 2007
A website showing
objects recovered from shipwrecks
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~indigo/flags.htm (fourth picture) shows
the house flag of the London, Brighton & South Coast Railway. It can be
described as a St George cross – red on white, throughout – with the upper left
quarter diagonally divided blue above white ((ascending diagonal), the upper
right one diagonally divided red above white (descending diagonal), the lower
left one white above red (descending diagonal) and the lower right one white
above blue (ascending diagonal). The company name gives precedence to the
British side but it also has French connections. The
initials L.B. & S.C. are shown on the garter surrounding the flag but also the
word ‘Ouest’ (French for ‘West’) and an additional scroll bears the words
‘Newhaven & Dieppe Service’.
Here is a link to
Dominique Cureau's site on French house flags, where the flag is basically
the same – the cross is somewhat thicker – identified as that of the French
State railway (source given as Talbot-Booth). The
on-line 1912 Lloyds Flags & Funnels has this flag as well under No. 1800.
under ‘London Brighton & South Coast and French State Railways Newhaven-Dieppe
Service’.
The British company existed – in this form – from 1846 to 1923, as documented at
http://www.lbscr.demon.co.uk/index.html. More information about the French
connection (1867 text) can be found at
http://steve.pickthall.users.btopenworld.com/ssx1867/newhaven1867.html:
“Newhaven has become a considerable port for continental traffic; a branch of
the London, Brighton, and South Coast Railway connects it with London, and fast
steamers ply daily to and from Dieppe, in connection with the Western Railway of
France (Chemins de Fer de l’Ouest, jm), forming the most direct line from London
to Paris: this route is preferred by many, not only for its regularity and
cheapness, but also for the beauty of the scenery from Dieppe to Paris.”
The following page shows a series of French posters for this service:
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/roland.arzul/etat/affiches/affiches5.htm, and
another page (in French) gives the date of foundation of the common service as
1859, shows the house flag, etc.:
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/roland.arzul/etat/inattendu/dieppe.htm. The Chemins
de Fer de l’Ouest became French state property in 1908.
Jan Mertens, 23 November 2005
This post card collection confirms the
flag.
António Martins-Tuválkin, 19 February 2007
image by António Martins-Tuválkin, 9 January 2008
Post card collection shows an ascending
diagonally divided flag of blue over red with lettering "LC&DR" in bold white
sans serif capitals, slightly offset to the top.
António Martins-Tuválkin,
9 January 2008
image by Eugene Ipavec, 24 July 2010
Griffin 1891 (a later edition that Griffin 1883)
gives a variant version with slender
initials (no serifs), three dots only, and without ampersand. A more important
difference however is the descending diagonal line defining a blue hoist and a
red fly which is no. 324 on p. 16 of that source. Caption: ‘Lon. Chatham &
Dover Ry, London’.
I really do not know which version is the
right one (that is, supposing the house flag was never modified). In any case
the company started out as the East Kent Railway (1858) and adapted its new name
one year later. As we know, it merged with South Eastern Railway in 1899. More
information here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London,_Chatham_and_Dover_Railway.
Jan
Mertens, 19 August 2009
image by António Martins-Tuválkin, 19 February 2007
Post card collection shows a red flag with
a white cross throughout and over all a very large white disc edged black
containing the company emblem, which is a heraldic crest (wing on a torse
charged with what seems to be a cross per gyronny) surrounded at the bottom and
sides by branches of thistle (fly) and rose (hoist), which are canting elements.
António Martins-Tuválkin, 19 February 2007
The wing is a dragon's, it bears a red cross and refers to the crest of the City of London (where the wing is silver however): http://www.railwayfriends.org/plaqueslarge/rc18.html.
The above given for detail, this one seems nearer the mark:
http://www.kesr.org.uk/acatalog/London_Midland_Scottish_Railway_badge.jpg
Jan Mertens, 22 February 2007
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