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Brown 432: Rederiaktiebolaget Nordstjernan Johnson Line, Stockholm
Funnel: Black with, between two yellow bands a blue band with a yellow five-pointed star with a blue J.
Flag: A forked blue flag, with centered on the remaining field, a yellow
five-pointed star with a blue J. the angle of the fork is approximately 100
degrees.
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 19 October 2003
Johnson line depiction
image by Jorge Candeias
Johnson line depiction
image by Jorge Candeias
Johnson line depiction
image by Jorge
Candeias
Johnson Line belonged to Nordstjernan, whose official site is at http://www.nordstjernan.se/.
Nordstjernan also owned a part of Silja Line
(it doesn't seem as if it still does).
Elias Granqvist, 4 April 2001
This URL includes a flag exactly as that of Johnson Line, except that it is
lighter. I wonder how different that is in normal houseflag practice (that is,
if there's a difference at all).
Jorge Candeias, 5 April 2001
Dates from 1890, originally known as Rederi A/B Nordstjernan, apparently
owned by Axel Axelson Johnson, they merged
their passenger vessels into Effjohn International O/Y A/B with a 40% holding.
The rest of their ships appear to have been disposed of with the company not
appearing to be directly involved in shipping anymore. All indications that I
have found are that the houseflag was dark blue as has been originally shown
and the light blue version shown on the current Nordstjernan site is
presumably that of the current "non shipping" company or possibly
just an artistic effect created by the site designer.
Neale Rosanoski, 5 August 2003
I found that they were located in the building which belonged to the Johnson Group and was
currently still used by NCC which is the descendent of Rederi A/B
Norstjernan, the company which is now confirmed as being formed by
group founder Axel Johnson. In the 1980s the group decided to
concentrate on the construction business and sold of its shipping
interests which included Silja Line and
Linjebuss and in 1988 changed
the Nordstjernan name to NCC. I previously commented that the
indications I had were that the flag was a dark blue and the best
example of this is the flag appearing on the Josef Nüsse [5] site. However
the photo of the building shows a flag etched on the side
whilst a similar blue looking flag is
being flown from the roof but is far too small to make out the detail.
However the version attached to the building is in line with the
website logo covered by Elias and Jorge. Determining the correct shade
is probably only possible from an actual observation but it may mean
there were two shades used for some reason. One point both the Nüsse
and building flags seem to agree on though is that the proportions
were 1:2.
Neale Rosanoski, 12 August 2006
[correct]
image contributed by Neale Rosanoski, 12 March 2007
Formed 1972 as an international joint venture by
Axel Axelson Johnson of Sweden with A/S Det Östasiatiske Kompagni of
Denmark and Blue Star Line of UK. The flag is shown by
Josef Nüsse [5]
under Sweden as a white swallowtail with a blue diamond bearing a
small white diamond point and two white chevrons pointing to fly with the flag being flown by ships in the
service but which retaining their own funnels.
Neale Rosanoski, 12 March 2007
[incorrect]
image contributed by Neale Rosanoski, 07 April 2011
My previously
sent image is incorrect. The table flag shown on the Josef Nüsse sites, both
old and new, does not show a swallowtail but a normal rectangle with the emblem
placed in the hoist. My apologies to all, especially Josef.
Neale Rosanoski, 03 April 2011
I can see a flag at
http://www.flagpole.de/reedereiflaggen/europa/nordeuropa/; I don't know
whether it's what Neale is talking about. That one does seem to show a fork;
it's shows as a rectangle, but as a light green fly triangle is unlikely as part
of the flag itself, and occurring in several flags at that, I expect it's
supposed to be a fork, with the transparency gone amiss.
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 07 April 2011
I picked up the "error" while updating my files and
faced with what looked like a rectangle instead of a swallowtail assumed I had
made a big mistake.
I have two PCs with my main one working two monitors, the other a single one. On
the main one I use a resolution of 2048x768 [needed to extend the coverage over
the two connected monitors] compared with 1024x768 [I assume that they equate to
the same] on the single one (which is used a supplemantary source when my main
panels get a bit crowded although the two are not directly connected). When I
check out Josef's new site on PC2, I can see the very light shading so it means
my original image was correct.
I guess it is bit like cameras and scanning machines. Some can give different
shades. My two connected monitors are of different brands and although working
off exactly the same resolution do give me slightly different shades at times.
In this case as I shift the web page over from one screen to the other they are
both showing no sign of the fork. My single monitor with PC2 is another brand
and it does show.
My original image was actioned on a previous single monitor. I have always used
the same resolution so whether it is different brands { I have had several
changes] or that I am now using a 2 monitor connection on the one PC that causes
the differences to what I "see" has me beat.
Obviously, if one has a suspicion that things are not what they seem on the
face, and the positioning of the emblem in the hoist could be so regarded,
although it is not unknown for it to happen to allow more of the fly to
disappear through wear and tear before the emblem is affected, then it would now
pay to try and check further when one is aware of such a viewing possibility.
As you noted, Josef uses this very light green on other flags and I have have
the same problem of not seeing this on my main screens. It just happens that
this is the first to be checked out so you have saved me a lot of uneccesary and
incorrect adjusting and advising and head scratching at your end as to what I am
on about.
I am sending a copy of this to Rob for his uses and attach a scan of what I
based my "error" supposition on. If the shading does not appear at your end then
you will see what I mean. If it does then my monitors are solely at fault.
Neale Rosanoski, 07 April 2011
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