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A very fertile ancestor word is the "ban(d)-" words. Most of them come through Spanish "bandera" and/or Portuguese "bandeira", but some (namely old European words such as Gaelic "baner" and almost all Italic and Gallic dialects) seem to derive directly from Late Latin "banderium" (plural: "banderia"). This in turn seems to come from Persian, perhaps via Byzantine Greek "mpandon", but I could not confirm this.
At any rate, I know a Portuguese word that seems related: "pano", meaning "cloth"; it seems to share a common etym and yet didn’t come along with Latin "banderia". On the other hand, there’s Latin "pendere", "to hang" (as in "pending" = "“hanging” in wait") — from which derive several "flag" words, such as English "pennant" and Spanish "pendón".
Would "ban(d)-" stem be cognate with the root of so many words akin to *"fan-", found in most Germanic languages?
António Martins, 12 Sep 2007
A common etymology for these words is "cloth", as in French
"drapeau" and its numerous offspring of words meaning
"flag" in several languages. As far as I know, it does not
mean "cloth" in French (any more), but cognates "trapo"
in Portuguese and "тряпка"
in Russian both mean "rag".
António Martins, 12 Sep 2007
Would the "ban(d)-" stem be
cognate with the root of so many words akin to
*"fan-", found in most Germanic
languages?
António Martins, 12 Sep 2007
I tried to find Mayan pictograms for these words with unsatisfactory results: There seems to be no known pictogram reading "pan" (though it is probably composable), and I found multiple results for "lakam".
In this Virginia University document, two pictograms are listed and glossed, and illustrated in two pages of the same site:
| "0213.00","lakam" "0213.01","lakam" |
213: lakam BM 213a: lakam BM |
213b: lakam BM |
| "0767.00","lakam" "0767.01","lakam" |
767: lakam BM 767a: lakam BM |
767b: lakam BM |
| source | source | source |
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António Martins, 02 Nov 2007
The word for "flag" in Finnish
("lippu") and Estonian
("lipp") (and others from the same
etym, I presume) is derived from an onomatopoeia (Source: English
Wiktionnary entry for
"lipp" and
"lippu"),
i.e., a word that sounds like what it stands for. I wonder what kind
of wind and rigging would cause a flag to go lip-lip, though, and if other
languages have anything like this.
António Martins, 23 Mar 2016
"Steg/stijeg"
is parallel to "standard" — the flag that
denotes the "standing/standpoint" of its owner.
Željko Heimer, 16 Aug 2007
Also "zastava" has that meaning:
at least in Russian
"стоять"
means "to stand (up)" ("za" being a dative
preffix / preposition). Similar etymologies seem to be common for
many words meaning "flag", reinforced, of course,
by each other.
António Martins, 12 Sep 2007
"Steg/stijeg" is parallel to
"standard" —
the flag that denotes the "standing/standpoint"
of its owner.
Željko Heimer, 16 Aug 2007
Also "zastava" has that meaning:
at least in Russian
"стоять"
means "to stand (up)" ("za" being a dative
preffix / preposition). Similar etymologies seem to be common for
many words meaning "flag", reinforced, of course,
by each other.
António Martins, 12 Sep 2007
"Steg/stijeg"
is parallel to "standard" —
the flag that denotes the "standing/standpoint"
of its owner.
Željko Heimer, 16 Aug 2007
Also "zastava" has that meaning:
at least in Russian "стоять"
means "to stand (up)" ("za" being a dative
preffix / preposition). Similar etymologies seem to be common for
many words meaning "flag", reinforced, of course,
by each other.
António Martins, 12 Sep 2007
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